# Bob conference - pijul might be interesting to people

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**Created:** [November 10, 2022, 9:02am UTC](https://discourse.pijul.org/t/bob-conference-pijul-might-be-interesting-to-people/1004 "2022-11-10T09:02:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![asdf8dfafjk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/discourse.pijul.org/asdf8dfafjk/32/302_2.png) [@asdf8dfafjk](https://discourse.pijul.org/u/asdf8dfafjk)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 9:02am UTC](https://discourse.pijul.org/t/bob-conference-pijul-might-be-interesting-to-people/1004/1 "2022-11-10T09:02:40Z")

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		     BOB Conference 2023
     "What happens when we use what's best for a change?"
	      https://bobkonf.de/2023/cfc.html
		     Berlin, Mar 17
		    Call for Contributions
		 Deadline: November 21, 2022
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You are actively engaged in advanced software engineering methods,
solve ambitious problem with software and are open to cutting-edge
innovation? Attend this conference, meet people that share your goals,
and get to know the best software tools and technologies available
today. We strive to offer a day full of new experiences and
impressions that you can use to immediately improve your daily life as
a software developer.

If you share our vision and want to contribute, submit a proposal for
a talk or tutorial!

NOTE: The conference fee will be waived for presenters. Travel
expenses will not be covered (for exceptions see "Speaker Grants").

Online or Onsite
----------------

We expect we'll be able to hold BOB 2023 in Berlin. Note that we
intend to provide a safe environment for all participants. There will
be space outside to eat and chat. We may ask you to wear a mask
indoors when not presenting or eating, and may also ask you to take a
COVID test on-site before the event.

If an on-site BOB is not possible, we'll make BOB a successful online
event, like BOB 2021 and BOB 2022. Should BOB happen online, we will
likely ask for pre-recorded talks to make room for questions and
social interactions during the actual conference day. (Of course,
we'll provide assistance making those recordings.) Tutorials will
likely happen as a live-session.

Shepherding
-----------

The program committee offers shepherding to all speakers. Shepherding
provides speakers assistance with preparing their
sessions. Specifically:

- advice on structure and presentation
- review of talk slides
- assistance with recording
- review of recording, if applicable

Speaker Grants
--------------

BOB has Speaker Grants available to support speakers from groups
under-represented in technology. We specifically seek women speakers,
speakers of color, and speakers who are not able to attend the
conference for financial reasons.

Topics
------

We are looking for talks about best-of-breed software technology, e.g.:

- functional programming
- persistent data structures and databases
- event-based modelling and architecture
- "fancy types" (dependent types, gradual typing, linear types, ...)
- formal methods for correctness and robustness
- abstractions for concurrency and parallelism
- metaprogramming
- probabilistic programming
- math and programming
- controlled side effects
- program synthesis
- next-generation IDEs
- effective abstractions for data analytics
- … everything really that isn’t mainstream, but you think should be
- … includeing rough ideas worth discussing.

Presenters should provide the audience with information that is
practically useful for software developers.

Challenges
----------

Furthermore, we seek contributions on successful approaches for
solving hard problems, for example:

- bias in machine-learning systems
- digital transformation in difficult settings
- accessibiltity
- systems with critical reliability requirements
- ecologically sustainable software development

We're especially interested in experience reports.
Other topics are also relevant, e.g.:

- introductory talks on technical background
- overviews of a given field
- demos and how-tos

Requirements
------------

We accept proposals for presentations of 45 minutes (40 minutes talk +
5 minutes questions), as well as 90 minute tutorials for
beginners. The language of presentation should be either English or
German.

Your proposal should include (in your presentation language of choice):

- An abstract of max. 1500 characters.
- A short bio/cv
- Contact information (including at least email address)
- A list of 3-5 concrete ideas of how your work can be applied in a developer's daily life
- additional material (websites, blogs, slides, videos of past presentations, …)
- Don't be confused: The system calls a submission event.

Organisation
------------

- Direct questions to konferenz at bobkonf dot de
- Proposal deadline: November 21, 2022
- Notification: December 5, 2022
- Program: December 12, 2022

Submit here:

https://pretalx.com/bob-2023/submit/

Program Committee
-----------------

(more information here: https://bobkonf.de/2023/programmkomitee.html)

- Matthias Fischmann, Wire
- Matthias Neubauer, SICK AG
- Nicole Rauch, Softwareentwicklung und Entwicklungscoaching
- Michael Sperber, Active Group
- Stefan Wehr, Hochschule Offenburg

Scientific Advisory Board

- Annette Bieniusa, TU Kaiserslautern
- Torsten Grust, Uni Tübingen
- Peter Thiemann, Uni Freiburg

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**Author:** ![pmeunier](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/discourse.pijul.org/pmeunier/32/4_2.png) [@pmeunier](https://discourse.pijul.org/u/pmeunier)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://discourse.pijul.org/t/bob-conference-pijul-might-be-interesting-to-people/1004/2 "2022-11-10T12:37:19Z")

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Interesting. I’m trying to avoid flying as much as possible, so nice conferences in Western Europe are really cool. And I’ve always dreamed of visiting Berlin, so I don’t see how I could not apply 🙂

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**Author:** ![asdf8dfafjk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/discourse.pijul.org/asdf8dfafjk/32/302_2.png) [@asdf8dfafjk](https://discourse.pijul.org/u/asdf8dfafjk)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 12:25pm UTC](https://discourse.pijul.org/t/bob-conference-pijul-might-be-interesting-to-people/1004/3 "2022-11-17T12:25:49Z")

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Cool. Btw, have you seen this- [Sapling: A new source control system with Git-compatible client | Hacker News](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33612410)

This is technically just a mercurial fork with some monorepo like features but the namedroppers would inevitably ask you

- how is pijul different from sapling

EDIT: End of the day I think what matters is whether a user is able to easily commit and traverse changesets and for that a good UI is very important, and sapling really seems nice from the blogpost, and something part of which can be an example for other projects.

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**Author:** ![pmeunier](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/discourse.pijul.org/pmeunier/32/4_2.png) [@pmeunier](https://discourse.pijul.org/u/pmeunier)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:12am UTC](https://discourse.pijul.org/t/bob-conference-pijul-might-be-interesting-to-people/1004/4 "2022-12-06T08:12:31Z")

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It seems I was accepted to BOBKonf in the end 🥳

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**Author:** ![asdf8dfafjk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/discourse.pijul.org/asdf8dfafjk/32/302_2.png) [@asdf8dfafjk](https://discourse.pijul.org/u/asdf8dfafjk)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://discourse.pijul.org/t/bob-conference-pijul-might-be-interesting-to-people/1004/5 "2022-12-10T21:48:43Z")

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Might I suggest/request taking a while to familiarize yourself with magit/sapling web ui?

End of the day it’s the UI that matters (and what I believe you yourself said was the USP, not that things work well mathematically but that the end user has a much simpler mental model of things).

Magit (which also happens to be the most downloaded emacs package) _really_ makes git painless. And sapling, while sadly I haven’t had too much time to take look at firsthand, also both seems to make things easy, and also has good reviews.

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**Author:** ![pmeunier](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/discourse.pijul.org/pmeunier/32/4_2.png) [@pmeunier](https://discourse.pijul.org/u/pmeunier)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://discourse.pijul.org/t/bob-conference-pijul-might-be-interesting-to-people/1004/6 "2022-12-11T09:03:47Z")

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If you believe Git’s problem is the UI but the mental model is fine, then Pijul is probably not the best tools for your workflows. I’m fine with Git’s UI, actually.

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**Author:** ![asdf8dfafjk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/discourse.pijul.org/asdf8dfafjk/32/302_2.png) [@asdf8dfafjk](https://discourse.pijul.org/u/asdf8dfafjk)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://discourse.pijul.org/t/bob-conference-pijul-might-be-interesting-to-people/1004/7 "2023-01-25T02:46:29Z")

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Well UI comes from mental model. They’re not orthogonal.