Hello there,
I tried to sign up today for Pijul Nest but after completing the form, all I got was “Forbidden”.
You can see the same message by going to https://nest.pijul.org/signup
Thanks,
Phil
@pmeunier said a few days ago:
I’ll try to take a look later today, sorry about that.
If it’s still happening, I wonder if he didn’t get to it or it’s broken again.
I tried pijul pull on the pijul repo yesterday, and got an error, but trying it again today, it worked. (and it showed me the changes in the editor, which it usually doesn’t)
Hey there, I am still experiencing this issue pretty consistently. Can anyone log in to Nest or sign up? It just gives “Forbidden” for all account actions.
I know someone put a comment on a Nest discussion yesterday (I got a notification), so it’s working for someone.
Hi. I’m seeing “Forbidden” too on nest.pijul.org. On nest.pijul.com I get “The email could not be sent. Please check the address, and try again later.”
Hi! Welcome here. I’m aware, and actually working on it right now. This is unfortunately blocked on a rewrite of the Nest: the public version running on nest.pijul.com is really old and needs to be retired. Fortunately, NLNet funded my work on a new, open source one. It should be ready today, hopefully.
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Thank you. I’m curious about Pijul. Very long time ago was curious about Darcs for theory.
I see nest.pijul.com got noticeable changes in design. nest.pijul.org now redirects to it.
No way exploring repositories anymore. Few links got broken without redirects (some with forbidden instead of not found).
Attempt to register now gives 503 after long delay. Then it triggers automatic retry resulting in handle or email already registered.
And https://nest.pijul.com/recover does nothing.
P.S. Just sharing in case not aware of issues. No need to rush. I still explore how to work locally with Pijul and trying to find additional tools.
This is a new open source version of the Nest. It’s still a bit rough, but I’m working on it. I decided to make the switch anyway since AWS SES suspended our email account.
Hey, thanks for working on this.
I wish Nest supported the old explore listing, where we could see random repos from folks more easily than this current graph view. As with many others, one of the only things blocking me from trying Pijul sooner is tooling support and maturity.
Could you explain the project’s stance on AI development? I ask because the new landing page and Nest website have many of the AI “tells” for when it develops front-ends, as well as the wording and so on.
I liked it too, but nobody ever expressed their opinion on it (the only thing I heard was “that’s not really exploring”). Probably not hard, the ranking algorithm is the same. I’d like to add something a bit smarter though, using languages to direct users to repos.
On AI, what happened is:
- I’m trying to run a company (coturnix.fr) in parallel to my Pijul work (which includes all the satellites projects such as Sanakirja). That company is extremely hard to run, for many reasons.
- I had been working (manually, of course) on a rewrite of the old Nest, and as in too many of my projects, I had done the 90 “technically hard” percents, and couldn’t find the time/motivation to complete the remaining boring 10% (landing page, account management…).
- My company uses PIjul, and we desperately needed a solution when I started hiring people. So I asked Claude Code for a little temporary help.
- I almost never like the resulting code. It’s shit. It also kills the joy of programming (for me at least), and will destroy the careers of people who have started with these tools, once Anthropic and OpenAI have their IPO and we start paying the real cost (the “real real” cost is environmental actually, and we’re already paying it).
- So, doing the last 10% to get a temporary solution is something I would not have done realistically. And nobody was doing it either, in many years. But now we have a temporary solution, I’d find it nice if someone (maybe me, I love coding!) took the time to rewrite these parts properly. That’s what open source is about.
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After writing this I realise this might be one of the very few websites where the bulk is carefully crafted by a thinking human, and only the wrapping was AI-assisted afterwards. Usually it’s the opposite, either “wrapping first, while we think about a substance”, or “let the AI write the substance, and make it look human”.
Here it’s neither, and it makes me sad that I wasn’t able ot deliver the full thing myself. But I still think it’s better this way. I have hundreds of prototypes of really cool things sleeping on my hard drive, I wrote them for fun. Some are useful, if I can get someone or something to do the final 10%, why not? Of course it would be better if it were a junior dev learning something out of it.
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Good takes, totally understandable and I’m really glad you’re able to be using your stuff already at your company, btw amazing work on Pijul and good luck w. the company
I have the same opinions on AI, and I seldom have energy to write the boring parts (especially frontends). Just wanted this clarification because I suppose my brain associated that style of UI with those low-effort projects, which I know Pijul is absolutely far from a low-effort one and is an amazing piece of software, I was just confused when I saw those things
Regarding the explore, I guess no one voiced it before bc its mostly a lurkers thing I guess(?) I was using it to check people’s stuff once in a while. Maybe once I improve my rust skills I could contribute those things too